[:1]Ok, so in the latest ANet blog there was mention of so-called "Transmutation stones". These are items that will allow you to combine two items, one with your preferred stats, the other with your preferred looks, into one item.
Not much is known for sure so far, except this basic functionality and that they will be sold in the in-game store. There will also be no in-game equivalent of these items, as confirmed by Martin Kerstein:
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The Transmutation Stones will indeed be available in the ingame-store. It is a cosmetic item like other cosmetic items we sell for GW1 already.
It is not like you cannot get the best items while playing the game. But if you want to have the look of a certain item but the stats of another one, then yes, you need to get a Transmutation Stone from the ingame-store.
This is a poll to gauge the feelings regarding this subject here at the forum.
I will make the following (well-educated) guesses:
- There will be no in-game way to get max stat items with any look.
- The TStones will be a consumable item.
I will use these assumptions as a base line, but the poll accommodates these assumptions being false so no biggie.
Sorry about the longness of the stipulations, but kinda a lot of scenarios to take into account, and want it to be as unbiased as possible.
[EDIT] The wording "achieve the same result" means a way to get any stat with any look. Could be in-game T-stones, but could also be in-game armor scaling or something along those lines.|||I for one would like to know and perhaps see more before I decide.|||I'm ok if it's cash shop exclusive, I expect that you get enough stones per $ for it to be worth it. But I'd rather if there was an in-game way to get the same effect.
I should say that it's not a big issue for me, provided we get enough skin choices. I don't keep expensive skins myself, I'd rather sell and pick a cheaper but nice skin instead. Mind you, there's plenty of skin choices in GW1 so that's never a problem. It becomes a problem if we end up having very few skins to choose from at any point in the game.|||Sorry to say this Lensor, but the poll is biased!
Simply because everyone will always want to be able to get everything for free.
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Truth be told, we don't know if all skins will be available at max stats. What Martin said, and I quote:
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It is not like you cannot get the best items while playing the game. But if you want to have the look of a certain item but the stats of another one, then yes, you need to get a Transmutation Stone from the ingame-store.
Bolded part for emphasis.
Notice that this does not rule out the fact that yes, there MIGHT be that look, but with other stats.
For example:
Item A has +10 Strenght.
Item B has +10 Vitality.
Both items are intended for Heavy classes. Both items have max-stats (maximum defense). Both items always drops with those stats (item A always has strenght, etc).
This means that a player without T-stones cannot obtain, let's say, Item A with vitality, but still can have both item skins at max-stats.
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Very different. Optimistic, but still different.
Either way, I choose to wait for more information.|||My only issue is that it certainly feels like a step back from what we had in gw1. Hit end game, pick your preferred armor, pick your preferred stats. Done.
Now it could be that the transmutation stones are only a dollar or two, which wouldn't be too bad - as if you want to use them you only need to buy them once, when you're max level, and have decided on the perfect looking set and acquired your end stat armor.|||A lot depends on 1) how much they cost and 2) how many skins are unavailable at max stats without a stone.
My kneejerk reaction is "argh ANet is trying to milk every dollar they can out of players GW is RUINED FOREVER", but it'll probably take a while to get used to the idea to give an unbiased answer
GW1 had the exact same problem with weapons for years (remember how a 6-27 Sephis Axe would go for millions of gold?). It was eventually resolved for free when HM was introduced and any monster could drop max weapons, so it seems strange that they would not only reintroduce the problem for GW2 but add a more complicated solution.|||I would like T-stones in the shop if there was a way to achieve the same result in game.
Basically, if the system is similar to GW1, where it's possible to use every skin at max level, then I'm totally fine with it. I don't care if there's (reasonable) grind involved, as long as it's possible. If it's not, I'm unhappy since it's a step backwards.
So I'm cool with it being a convenience item, not a shop-exclusive feature.|||Quote:
Sorry to say this Lensor, but the poll is biased!
Simply because everyone will always want to be able to get everything for free.
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Truth be told, we don't know if all skins will be available at max stats. What Martin said, and I quote:
That (if) people want to get stuff for free in general does not a biased poll make. It just means that people's opinions are colored by their own wants. Bias is if the poll is worded to "coerce" people into choosing options they do not really agree with.
Also, I acknowledged we dont know for sure there wont be max stats of everything, but the poll acknowledges this possibility.|||I'm with Thalanor: need to know more, first.
* How many stones/uses do we get at a particular price? (Perhaps one stone will have enough uses to transmute one full armor set, for example.)
* Will stones be tradeable in-game? (Can I buy stones at the shop and then sell to other players in game?)
* How many times will we need to do a transmutation to get the look of the lowest-stat armor in GW2 applied to the highest-stat armor, assuming that we transmute every intermediate level of armor? (Will this even be possible? If we transmute, say, level 1 looks onto level 5 armor, will we be able to transmute the same looks from the level 5 armor to level 10 armor? Or will we have to go get another set of level 1 armor to transmute the level 10 armor?)
We really need to know more about items and stats to get full answers to all the questions.|||Quote:
This means that a player without T-stones cannot obtain, let's say, Item A with vitality, but still can have both item skins at max-stats.
I'd like to emphasize this because it's entirely possible... also because that's what we have in GW1 for green items at least, as well as many unique items.
Afaik, it's not possible to have every skin with any stats in GW1. They thus could add T-stones to GW1 and some people would buy them.
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My only issue is that it certainly feels like a step back from what we had in gw1. Hit end game, pick your preferred armor, pick your preferred stats. Done.
See above. Not necessarily.
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